> Everyone can argue or discuss back and forth about hitchhikers but
> everyone is missing one important point. It's none of our business
> if someone makes a hitchhiker or not.
Sure it is! If someone is hiding stuff for people (like me) to find,
they might want to know what those people (such as myself) WANT to
find. Most people who hide letterboxes want to make the experience
as good as possible for the people that find them. How can someone
create a fantastic box that everyone loves if nobody is willing to
provide feedback or discuss issues such as hitchhikers, hybrids, etc?
Some people can be very closed-minded and say, "I'm hiding whatever I
want whether you like it or not," and I guess they have every right
to do so if they want, but if you want to hide a box that others will
enjoy, it's not a bad idea to hear what others do or do not want.
Based on the feedback from the hitchhiker discussion, it seems some
parts of the country have a severe lack of them while others have an
over-abundance! What's come of this?
* There's talk about "moving" HHs from over-populated areas to under-
served ones. That will please people from BOTH sides of the equation!
* Perhaps some people were planning to create a multitude of
hitchhikers but now realizes that many people in their area may not
appreciate the efforts as much as they wanted, and will now convert
them into regular letterboxes. More people will enjoy the boxes, and
the hider will enjoy them more knowing more people are enjoying them!
* Even if someone still decides to hide a hitchhiker, at least
they'll have a better idea of the reception it might receive BEFORE
they actually place it.
In the end, everyone will be theoretically happier--both the people
finding the boxes and the people placing them, and the world will be
a better place.
Sappy, I know, but I don't think any points are being missed. I'd
even dare to suggest that discussions like this are a HEALTHY part of
ALL group activities. Some people don't feel comfortable about such
discussions, and sometimes they can even resort to name-calling or
worse, but in the end I think it'll make the hobby more enjoyable for
everyone to know what others are thinking.
-- Ryan
Hitchhikers or not. You're missing the point.
7 messages in this thread |
Started on 2003-01-15
Hitchhikers or not. You're missing the point.
From: Chuck Straub (woodschuckstraub@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2003-01-15 22:36:38 UTC-05:00
Everyone can argue
or discuss back and forth about hitchhikers but everyone is missing one
important point. It's none of our business if someone makes a hitchhiker or not.
If Mr.. X puts out 10 hitchhikers next week, lets just live with it. It's a
hobby. It's supposed to be fun. If you run across one and don't like them,
ignore them. The point I am trying to make is that there are no rules. Each
individual can do as he/she wants, and I say, good luck to them. Remember the
Letterboxer Purple Heart argument. What was accomplished there. A good man felt
put down for making and naming a box. Remember the arguements about people
listing their PFX counts? Some people like to see it some people don't. Let
people do as they want and call boxes what they want. You don't have to agree
with them but try not to condemn. In a free society, isn't there room for
us all? Go ahead, I'm ready for the barrage, but, I'll still be here and
still letterboxing letting anyone do as they want and letting them be
unique individuals.....Chuck and Molly.
Re: Hitchhikers or not. You're missing the point.
From: rscarpen (RiskyNil@hotmail.com) |
Date: 2003-01-16 04:25:34 UTC
Re: [LbNA] Hitchhikers or not. You're missing the point.
From: (mohmers@aol.com) |
Date: 2003-01-16 07:18:10 UTC-05:00
In a message dated 1/15/03 7:40:08 PM Pacific Standard Time, woodschuckstraub@yahoo.com writes:
HURRAY!!!!!
I love that !
Now .... would someone mind hiding a few letterboxes in and around St. Louis & Southern Illinois? I'm getting lonely.
:o)
Mohmers
Everyone can argue or discuss back and forth about hitchhikers but everyone is missing one important point. It's none of our business .... lets just live with it. It's a hobby. It's supposed to be fun.
HURRAY!!!!!
I love that !
Now .... would someone mind hiding a few letterboxes in and around St. Louis & Southern Illinois? I'm getting lonely.
:o)
Mohmers
Re: Hitchhikers or not. You're missing the point.
From: psycomommy2003 (ktborrelli@hotmail.com) |
Date: 2003-01-16 17:08:59 UTC
---As taken from Ryan's website:
Also, if you start posting more than a few posts in a day, you'll
begin to annoy people. Perhaps all of your 30 posts yesterday are
inciteful, witty, and full of useful and interesting information, but
I can assure you that most people aren't impressed. It's a busy board
and few people have time to read ALL posts. If you start posting
countless posts every day, people will start ignoring them. They
don't have time for it.
Psychomommy
In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "rscarpen"
wrote:
> > Everyone can argue or discuss back and forth about hitchhikers but
> > everyone is missing one important point. It's none of our business
> > if someone makes a hitchhiker or not.
>
> Sure it is! If someone is hiding stuff for people (like me) to
find,
> they might want to know what those people (such as myself) WANT to
> find. Most people who hide letterboxes want to make the experience
> as good as possible for the people that find them. How can someone
> create a fantastic box that everyone loves if nobody is willing to
> provide feedback or discuss issues such as hitchhikers, hybrids,
etc?
>
> Some people can be very closed-minded and say, "I'm hiding whatever
I
> want whether you like it or not," and I guess they have every right
> to do so if they want, but if you want to hide a box that others
will
> enjoy, it's not a bad idea to hear what others do or do not want.
>
> Based on the feedback from the hitchhiker discussion, it seems some
> parts of the country have a severe lack of them while others have
an
> over-abundance! What's come of this?
>
> * There's talk about "moving" HHs from over-populated areas to
under-
> served ones. That will please people from BOTH sides of the
equation!
>
> * Perhaps some people were planning to create a multitude of
> hitchhikers but now realizes that many people in their area may not
> appreciate the efforts as much as they wanted, and will now convert
> them into regular letterboxes. More people will enjoy the boxes,
and
> the hider will enjoy them more knowing more people are enjoying
them!
>
> * Even if someone still decides to hide a hitchhiker, at least
> they'll have a better idea of the reception it might receive BEFORE
> they actually place it.
>
> In the end, everyone will be theoretically happier--both the people
> finding the boxes and the people placing them, and the world will
be
> a better place.
>
> Sappy, I know, but I don't think any points are being missed. I'd
> even dare to suggest that discussions like this are a HEALTHY part
of
> ALL group activities. Some people don't feel comfortable about
such
> discussions, and sometimes they can even resort to name-calling or
> worse, but in the end I think it'll make the hobby more enjoyable
for
> everyone to know what others are thinking.
>
> -- Ryan
Also, if you start posting more than a few posts in a day, you'll
begin to annoy people. Perhaps all of your 30 posts yesterday are
inciteful, witty, and full of useful and interesting information, but
I can assure you that most people aren't impressed. It's a busy board
and few people have time to read ALL posts. If you start posting
countless posts every day, people will start ignoring them. They
don't have time for it.
Psychomommy
In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "rscarpen
> > Everyone can argue or discuss back and forth about hitchhikers but
> > everyone is missing one important point. It's none of our business
> > if someone makes a hitchhiker or not.
>
> Sure it is! If someone is hiding stuff for people (like me) to
find,
> they might want to know what those people (such as myself) WANT to
> find. Most people who hide letterboxes want to make the experience
> as good as possible for the people that find them. How can someone
> create a fantastic box that everyone loves if nobody is willing to
> provide feedback or discuss issues such as hitchhikers, hybrids,
etc?
>
> Some people can be very closed-minded and say, "I'm hiding whatever
I
> want whether you like it or not," and I guess they have every right
> to do so if they want, but if you want to hide a box that others
will
> enjoy, it's not a bad idea to hear what others do or do not want.
>
> Based on the feedback from the hitchhiker discussion, it seems some
> parts of the country have a severe lack of them while others have
an
> over-abundance! What's come of this?
>
> * There's talk about "moving" HHs from over-populated areas to
under-
> served ones. That will please people from BOTH sides of the
equation!
>
> * Perhaps some people were planning to create a multitude of
> hitchhikers but now realizes that many people in their area may not
> appreciate the efforts as much as they wanted, and will now convert
> them into regular letterboxes. More people will enjoy the boxes,
and
> the hider will enjoy them more knowing more people are enjoying
them!
>
> * Even if someone still decides to hide a hitchhiker, at least
> they'll have a better idea of the reception it might receive BEFORE
> they actually place it.
>
> In the end, everyone will be theoretically happier--both the people
> finding the boxes and the people placing them, and the world will
be
> a better place.
>
> Sappy, I know, but I don't think any points are being missed. I'd
> even dare to suggest that discussions like this are a HEALTHY part
of
> ALL group activities. Some people don't feel comfortable about
such
> discussions, and sometimes they can even resort to name-calling or
> worse, but in the end I think it'll make the hobby more enjoyable
for
> everyone to know what others are thinking.
>
> -- Ryan
Re: [LbNA] Hitchhikers or not. You're missing the point.
From: Susan Pederson (lpfrognmac@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2003-01-16 09:51:34 UTC-08:00
Thanks Chuck! Well said!
I found my first hitchhikers on the same day at consecutive boxes. I was thrilled. MY 9 year old son still talks about the look on my face when I found the first one. It delighted me!
Let's just keep on keeping on!
Peace-
Lpfrognmac
Chuck Straub <woodschuckstraub@yahoo.com> wrote:
Everyone can argue or discuss back and forth about hitchhikers but everyone is missing one important point. It's none of our business if someone makes a hitchhiker or not. If Mr.. X puts out 10 hitchhikers next week, lets just live with it. It's a hobby. It's supposed to be fun. If you run across one and don't like them, ignore them. The point I am trying to make is that there are no rules. Each individual can do as he/she wants, and I say, good luck to them. Remember the Letterboxer Purple Heart argument. What was accomplished there. A good man felt put down for making and naming a box. Remember the arguements about people listing their PFX counts? Some people like to see it some people don't. Let people do as they want and call boxes what they want. You don't have to agree with them but try not to condemn. In a free society, isn't there room for us all? Go ahead, I'm ready for the barrage, but, I'll still be here and still letterboxing letting anyone do as they want and letting them be unique individuals.....Chuck and Molly.
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Re: [LbNA] Hitchhikers or not. You're missing the point.
From: Erika Seftor (forestfrogs@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2003-01-16 10:24:33 UTC-08:00
Chuck and Molly,
Everything you wrote is perfectly valid, but I would like to mention that I can sympathize with the disappointment that might be felt by people whose region is saturated with hitch-hikers. Having found two HH in 38 boxes, I know what a rush it was to find them, and it would be kind of sad if that thrill were diminished by finding them all the time. That's not to say people shouldn't keep placing them, and I do take issue with the classification of HH's as the "lazy man's' boxes," especially since the two I found were both exquisitely carved with beautiful handmade log books (hooray, ADG and especially Sarah!). But if they became commonplace, frankly, I'd be bummed. It would be my own problem, but I might want to mention it here and share my feelings.
Now that positive suggestions have been made regarding sending HH's to other areas, I'm curious if those of you who have become more bored with them are planning the NEXT GREAT innovation in letterboxing. I know we were very excited to find our first microbox in downtown Washington, DC, and since then have found and placed several others, and we have also found one Cuckoo...the box stays in one place, but the clues travel...now THAT was cool. So what new, exciting things are coming next?
Mama Frog, of the Forest Frog Family (who were THIS CLOSE to finding our first mapsurfer box...must get back there and try again!!!!!!!)
P09 F38 HH2 X01
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Re: [LbNA] Hitchhikers or not. You're missing the point.
From: Mary Ellen Martel (memlili54@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2003-01-16 15:01:51 UTC-08:00
Thank you Chuck (& Molly)
Memlili
Chuck Straub <woodschuckstraub@yahoo.com> wrote:
Everyone can argue or discuss back and forth about hitchhikers but everyone is missing one important point. It's none of our business if someone makes a hitchhiker or not. If Mr.. X puts out 10 hitchhikers next week, lets just live with it. It's a hobby. It's supposed to be fun. If you run across one and don't like them, ignore them. The point I am trying to make is that there are no rules. Each individual can do as he/she wants, and I say, good luck to them. Remember the Letterboxer Purple Heart argument. What was accomplished there. A good man felt put down for making and naming a box. Remember the arguements about people listing their PFX counts? Some people like to see it some people don't. Let people do as they want and call boxes what they want. You don't have to agree with them but try not to condemn. In a free society, isn't there room for us all? Go ahead, I'm ready for the barrage, but, I'll still be here and still letterboxing letting anyone do as they want and letting them be unique individuals.....Chuck and Molly.
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